OBN: All women aren’t as assertive as you so you will never get what you want. Until recently the culture wasn’t designed for women to be sex positive. You are asking the wrong women. You should try asking bi women and female swingers. OBN (cont): Women contact us privately to discuss their bisexuality and sexual experiences all the time. Mothers and society don’t teach daughters to be sex positive. Longterm relationships empower women’s sexuality. But it takes experience and loving. JANE: Yes but women can never explain erotic turnons. You have to be aroused before you can have an orgasm. They talk of love & emotions. I don’t hold with all this modesty and mystery. Women need to speak up. Gone are the days when we worry about being virginal. There are millions of women. JANE (cont): So women who talk about sex are unusual. The question is why are women so secretive? Sorry erotic fiction. Very few women ever comment on sexual pleasure let alone orgasm. Women are very good actresses… I do not believe women orgasm with a lover, male or female. There are no natural turnons for women with a lover. Women often mistake orgasm. OBN: Arousing women isn’t hard once you know how to touch them, if they want you to touch them. Once they are confident, they’ll tell you what they like. You need to see women have multiple orgasms until their bodies run out of energy. Women are excited by women or men & sexual activity around them. JANE: I disagree but if you know any women who are willing to talk about these orgasms you think they’re having then please ask them to contact me. The ultimate motivation for intercourse comes from male sex drive. Women go along with male passion in certain circumstances. But not for orgasm. OBN: Bi women swingers don’t go along. They seduce men & women because they want an orgasm. Women’s sex drive is powerful if allowed. The bi women we know are orgasmic with women & men. OBN (cont): In our experience the more sex positive women are the more experienced and comfortable they become. Everyone tells women they have too much or too little, the wrong kind. Slut is still a big word. Talk to women who are swingers. JANE: I don’t find women have a clue about orgasm. Sex is easy. A woman just has to open her legs. Orgasm relies on positive response to eroticism! Women aren’t interested in sexual discussions. I almost always talk to men. Women refuse to comment even indirectly on any aspect of sex or orgasm. JANE (cont): Who says that sex is bad? Who does the training? In my experience no one ever talks about sex. Only men among themselves not the bad stuff! Dual standards exist because women use sex to obtain other rewards. Men engage in sex purely for sexual pleasure. So men have an excuse! OBN: Often women we know have sex to be loved, for sexual expression and pleasure. Many have sex to make their partners happy because it makes them happy. Women swingers are comfortable talking about sex and most over 30 who are bi, OBN (cont): know what they like because they are experienced and married with children. Women will respond if they’re interested. More men tend to be comfortable with sex. Men aren’t trained from birth that sex is bad, private and slutty. JANE: Do you know any mature women who might be willing to discuss their sexual experiences? You havent explained any aspect of female sexual response. You are just asserting that women have orgasms in line with male hopes. OBN: Many bi women are quiet about their bisexuality, especially the young. But as women become more comfortable with themselves and more experienced, they talk about sex. Dedicated to womens enjoyment of sexual pleasure