EnlightFundy: Well its very strange to me that people would resist a push towards greater knowledge on these topics. For example, my women friends readily admit that they watch porn. Maybe not a lot, but they watch it. Yet there is a perception that women do not. JANE: I also watch porn with my partner sometimes. But I don’t use it to achieve orgasm. It is not arousing in the way that it is for a man. Porn is censored because most women most of the time are hugely offended by it. JANE: Men are aroused visually. But porn does little for me. I use surreal fantasies that are much less graphic more psychological. Most people don’t want to learn about sexuality. Men just want sex. Women just aren’t interested. They really have no idea about sexual response. EnlightFundy: Im curious, though: if you dont get anything out of porn, are you watching it? Because of what it does for him? And what would be an example of the psychological fantasies you mention? Id like to broaden my options. I watch porn when I masturbate: EnlightFundy: sometimes I have a palpable need to see the naked female body. But I find most contemporary studio porn is awful: fake bodies, fake tits and no pubic hair. I have nothing against women doing breast augmentation. Its the fetishizing of it, the uniformity, that gets to me. So I watch vintage Euro stuff, 70s etc. JANE: You have to remember that the anatomy involved in female orgasm, the clitoral organ, is equivalent to the penis. So when masturbating a responsive woman puts herself in the position of the penetrating male, which is the only erotic role. The receiver is merely a recipient of male thrusting & ejaculate. JANE (cont): Watching porn with a lover, does add something. It is vaguely arousing. It seems to make penetration I find anal best more effective. I can reach a peak through vaginal fisting or anal stimulation with a penis but this has no mental element. Therefore it is less satisfying than when I masturbate myself using erotic fantasy. JANE (cont): My fantasies are not graphic. They are more like dreams conceptual. I identify with the perspective of the penetrating male: the gratification of penetration and ejaculation. The idea of doing something to another person. An interesting & fun way to learn about sexuality for all