JANE: I never needed to fake no man ever noticed I didnt come. Shere Hite Keith: How sad as a chap with multiple partners over the years until married 30 yrs ago. Ensuring my partner enjoyed herself was as much a key to my own pleasure as my own physical pleasure. JANE: Female orgasm has become, for men, a token of female approval. Men never talk about their own orgasm. They talk about the turnons that cause their arousal. Only men talk of these orgasms they like to assume women have with a lover. But men cannot explain them logically. Keith: Hmm yes and no, female O happens as part of intimate shared erotica enjoyment that can involve both physical and mental stimuli. I can logically explain how my domme partners achieve orgasm. Pretty simply they love the power exchange. It turns them on and they pleasure themselves. JANE: You are very vague. What do you mean by ‘it turns them on’ & ‘they pleasure themselves’. Can you be more explicit? What erotic stimuli cause their arousal & what stimulation do they use to achieve orgasm? The anatomy involved in orgasm is consistent whether alone or with a lover. Keith: Hi I am uncomfortable going into that level of detail here. JANE: It would be more convincing if women were willing to talk about these orgasms. It would also help if women showed any evidence of understanding what is involved in sexual response. Women offer sex for love or for the money/support men provide to get regular sex. An interesting & fun way to learn about sexuality for all