Caroline:Studies show that while lesbian sex is less frequent than straight couples, lesbian sex lasts longer and is more satisfying. Caroline (cont): In lesbian sex, partners take turns having orgasms. Most lesbians go into a sexual experience expecting to have an orgasm. JANE: Really? What do they say? Or is it a secret? What anatomy do they stimulate and what turnons do they use? I find lesbians are no more interested in discussing sex than other women. Caroline: Maybe we treat different populations of women. Are you also a couples counselor? JANE:I am a researcher, which is quite different.Counsellors are obliged to believe everything their clients tell them JANE (cont): because they get paid for doing so. I am much more objective. I am asking women how they achieve orgasm. Most women, including lesbians, cannot explain. Caroline:If the evidence is a woman selfreporting that shes had an orgasm, thats proof enough. Caroline (cont): Women having sex with other women might better be able to communicate their needs because of not having to worry about a mans fragile ego. JANE: Responsiveness is related to gender, not to orientation. Women dont seem to understand that orgasm is not just about physical stimulation. It is about the minds response to eroticism. Caroline: Heterosexual sex is defined by the man orgasming. Obviously not true for lesbians. JANE: Plenty of men are willing to stimulate a womans clitoris either by hand or by mouth. My experience is that orgasm occurs from masturbating alone. Clearly, few women are responsive. Caroline: Frankly, now it is awkward for me to further this conversation. What I will say is that orgasming while making love is not only possible but amazing. Caroline (cont): There are reasons why some women have a difficult time being vulnerable enough with another person (male or female) to be able to orgasm. JANE: Women always have some excuse or other for not being willing to discuss sex. Women need to start providing some facts and logic explanations to support their claims rather than relying on sexual bravado. Celebrating our ability to enjoy eroticism