Honey: Sex is not always easy to talk about JANE: Men tend to talk about sex more easily than women. But men like to focus on erotic turnons and fantasies. Women are more likely to refer to love and relationships. Honey: Yeah. Im aware of that. I also find its not easy for a woman to find someone she clicks with. Women talk with other women quite openly about sex. But with the male partner? JANE: I dont find that women ever talk openly about sex. In fact, they typically refuse to comment. Whatever women say is rarely explicit and JANE (cont): has little to do with enjoying eroticism or sexual pleasure. Women seem to think that they orgasm just because they have intercourse. Honey: Uhmmm Disagree. Good girlfriends talk. Explicitly. JANE: What do they say explicitly? What erotic turnons cause womens mental arousal with a lover? What specific anatomy do women stimulate to orgasm? Women are sexually passive due to a lack of erotic arousal. Men provide all the stimulation in heterosexual relationships. Honey: We talk about intellectual stimulation & what turns us off. With a real man we do the same. Clear wording, no second guessing. Yes! We talk exactly about what turns us on. One finger or two. Where, when and how hard. There are passive women and there are very active women. JANE: Im asking whether you stimulate the vagina or clitoris. What stimulation technique do you use?! Also mental erotic turnons (not emotional ones) e.g. male orgasm, ejaculation, testicles etc. JANE (cont): In my view, sex is an exchange. Women offer sex when they feel appreciated by a man in the wider aspects of the relationship. Women want a loving companion who is interested in them. Honey: Ok lady. I have to say, your way of generalising is starting to rile me up. Your comments are not reflective of everybodys experience. You are not helping womens cause. JANE: What cause exactly? A political ideal based on the idea that to be equal men and women must be the same in all things? Honey: (silence) Dedicated to womens enjoyment of sexual pleasure