Mia: I think that women are not used to exploring what they like and therefore just stay at a halfway satisfactory level and lose interest eventually in sex. But if you are able to let go of shame and let yourself enjoy sexual ecstasy, its another level. JANE: Can you be explicit? What do you mean let go of shame? What is this shame? Why does it affect women, not men? What is sexual ecstasy? Please specify the anatomy and erotic turnons involved. Mia: About ecstasy: the stage you are in while having sex, when you dont think anymore. When you completely let go and its just pure f*cking. Comparable with the flow state, just for sex. JANE: What do you mean by flow state and just for sex? Are you talking about intercourse? What stimulation & erotic turnons do you use for orgasm? Or are you talking about sensual & emotional pleasure with a loving partner? Mia: Because we accept men to be sexual beings but define womens sexuality only through mens. So if a woman wants to have sex, because shes horny, its shameful. JANE: Why do you think its shameful? Mia: Teaching women to not slut shame each other and that being a sexual person is freeing and powerful, that would be something very valuable. Some women love sex too by the way, we just dont admit publicly. JANE: Why dont you admit it publicly? What are you ashamed of? Mia: Because if we are known to be sexual, there is no more room for labels as smart or successful. Were put in the box of slut and thats it. Flow state I have when I do art, sexual ecstasy is comparable. Mia: I lose sense of time, I dont think, just feel or fuck. There is no shame, no right or wrong anymore. No, its only about sex, not about partnership. Im talking about the opposite of romance. Have you ever been to sexual ecstasy? JANE: This is all extremely vague. I assume you are talking about intercourse. Men make all the effort in intercourse. A woman just has to lie there until a man is done. JANE (cont): Intercourse depends on male responses and has nothing to do with female orgasm. Few women would volunteer for intercourse without reliable contraception. This is not sex drive. JANE (cont): Im glad you enjoy sex but it doesnt really help other women. Presumably you enjoy the ego or the relationship & giving pleasure. Nothing wrong with that! An interesting & fun way to learn about sexuality for all