JANE:Men are much more interested in all aspects of sex than women ever are. Michelle:I don’t think it’s about interest. It’s about openness and shame structures in our society that lead to beliefs inside of people’s minds. JANE:Women are embarrassed because sex is something that is done to them. The desire for penetration arises in the male mind. JANE (cont):Women are sexually passive with a lover due to lack of arousal. Research clearly indicates that female orgasm occurs during masturbation alone. Michelle:And how come there are women who have vaginal orgasms? It’s a small percentage but still JANE:They are mistaken. They assume that they orgasm from lovemaking emotional & sensual sensations. JANE (cont):No one can orgasm from stimulation that they cannot control. Stimulation needs to continue up to orgasm but not beyond. Anyone who can orgasm knows this basic fact. Michelle:That seems about right, stimulation after orgasm isn’t really feeling good, at least when it’s through clit stimulation. Michelle (cont):However, just because a woman is penetrated it’s not out of our control to be stimulated. JANE: Women talk about mechanics. But sexual arousal depends on what happens in the brain. No one can name any female erotic turnons with a lover. So how do they orgasm if they are not aroused? Michelle: Have you actually talked to women about their arousal? Because I know quite a few women who can name what they find arousing in a lover including me. Maybe there is a personal bias on your end. JANE:What erotic turnons do you and other women have? Michelle:A friend of mine shared that she can be turned on by just looking at a body she is attracted to and feels aroused. Michelle (cont):For me, it’s voices or accents. Also when someone is whispering very closely into my ear. Michelle (cont):For my friend, it’s when she is touched very lightly around her inner elbow area. Michelle (cont):These are all turnons that I know about that have nothing to do with male penetration. JANE:But none of those are erotic, are they? They cannot cause orgasm. Even women need to be erotically aroused before they can orgasm. Michelle: (silence) Celebrating our ability to enjoy eroticism